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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.30 16:30:39 -
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Have to say, I'm on the fence about this one, for the most part. Removing the ability to awox people certainly reduces the dark, gritty feeling of the game and also removes a method of violent interaction (never a good thing), but it's kind of a dumb mechanic (even while being useful in a good set of situations.) This could be a good thing in that it engenders a greater sense of false trust in other players, which is great for thieves because it makes people less paranoid overall and could make social engineering loads easier, at least amongst the unclean carebear population.
Also, CCP needs to drop this idea that ganking is the apex method of violence in high-sec. Fixing wardec evasion (one week follow is the accepted fix, I like it) and brutally taxing NPC corps would go a long way towards dealing with the negative effects of killing awoxing.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1220
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Posted - 2014.10.30 17:30:55 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:CCP needs to decide what kind of game is wants t make and who it wants to market it too, because if the answer to that is "market it to people so weak that they won't fight back or learn cleaver ways to evade when you screw with them", then EVE isn't dying, it's already dead lol. EVE is dying~
Seems they've made their decision; high-sec will be an unassailable bastion of terrible PvE content where wallets can increment safely and the rest of the game can burn. From the sounds of it null-sec alliances will have even greater incentive to continue making their money in high-sec, instead of where they live, while low-sec as a whole will continue being a wasteland.
It's a wonder anyone still tries to keep space in null-sec...
Jenn aSide wrote:At this point i don't think any of that will happen. I don't think the current CCP has the will of the true original company, the one that said "we're making this unique game about freedom in the coldness of space, a sci-fi ultima online, screw it if you don't like it". Yeah, it's a much different game than when I started in early 2011 (even). Some of the new changes have been welcome, but overall it's just getting harder and harder to mess with people in high-sec. If ganking ever gets removed then we'll know EVE is dead.
Still on the fence over this one (definitely leaning towards "bad idea", though), but it really needs a balancing element added.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1221
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Posted - 2014.10.30 18:16:55 -
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Paynus Maiassus wrote:AWOXERs need to get a real job. Do something hard in Eve.
EVE Mining is hard.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1224
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Posted - 2014.10.30 23:07:22 -
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Zepher Helen Hawat wrote:You know what... nerf all of hi-sec. Make it as safe as the carebear wants. Issue pillows... but reduce the amount of ISK that can be made there. Simple. This is basically the solution to all of EVE's problems.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1226
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Posted - 2014.10.30 23:37:55 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Presuming that people who rat or mine in the ultra safe blue donut, Deklein for example, or in renterland, somehow "deserve" higher rewards than people in highsec because they are "exposed" to more risk. Yeah, pretty much. High-sec PvE is way too rewarding for the investment a carebear puts into their own safety and space (none).
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1227
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:55:34 -
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I can't help but think that this isn't going to have the effect CCP wants it to. There still isn't any incentive (for the die-hard carebear) to leave NPC corps or to join multi-player corps. This change isn't going to engender any real trust and doesn't address the problem of **** corps taking advantage of people. It's going to involve a whole bunch of strange flags and dueling exceptions to allow certain corps to operate as they always have (RvB, haulers, etc...) which could end up with actionable "social exploits" that will leave us in the exact same situation we have right now.
I'd love to see what else they have in mind to address the problem of NPR because, on its own, this isn't going to do anything to get people "out there".
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1227
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Posted - 2014.10.31 17:57:56 -
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Syn Shi wrote:I think its funny that the definition of pvp being thrown around is as long as there is one other person in Eve....you are somehow competing with them and its pvp.
Why stop at that...why not call it pvp if there is someone in another game. Hell, there is someone on the planet somewhere...they are breathing...it must be pvp...we are competing for the same air. Elite poasting~
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1227
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Posted - 2014.11.01 04:38:08 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:It turned out he fell asleep at the keyboard. He fully accepted what we did, no hard feelings. This is the hero that high-sec needs.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1228
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Posted - 2014.11.01 16:37:50 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:At this stage I'm writing you off as a shitposting troll who has trouble with reading comprehension. At this stage? Brother, you need your troll-detector rewired.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1230
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Posted - 2014.11.01 17:04:57 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Only close minded people I see are the ones who think targeting the new players is beneficial for the game. Good thing then that targeting new players gets you banned.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1233
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Posted - 2014.11.01 17:18:09 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Not if you join a corp with them and do it. Good thing then that I can't join an NPC corp and freely shoot new players.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1234
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Posted - 2014.11.01 17:59:01 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Nothing is being removed. The only change discussed was having Concord show up. That story would have never happened if CONCORD showed up, so it follows that something will be removed.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1234
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:08:12 -
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Syn Shi wrote:The story can still be written...you just choose to not write it. Please explain how the esteemed Ned Thomas' story would have been the same if CONCORD had shown up.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1235
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:18:09 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Link to the esteemed Ned Thomas story. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5170034#post5170034
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1235
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:23:07 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Some Rando wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5170034#post5170034 Where's the rest of it? It's a short one. Even someone of your limited mental capacity shouldn't have trouble finishing it.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1236
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:34:26 -
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Syn Shi wrote:The story is they blew up a ship of a 5 year player...a 5 year player is a noob? Would you call them a noob?
Syn Shi wrote:And the fact that he wasn't in the corp makes it more akin to suicide ganking. So the 5 year Orca pilot that got awoxed wasn't in the corp? How'd he get awoxed then?
Syn Shi wrote:The story is not even revenant to the topic. That, at least, is true.
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Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1236
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Posted - 2014.11.01 18:56:37 -
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Syn Shi wrote:Being that the topic is about targeting new players I can only assume you view the 5yr player as the noob. I just had a read of the OP and the topic is about awoxing, not targeting new players, so the esteemed Ned Thomas' story is entirely relevant.
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